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1. Nate

   Dude, you blame THAT fan? Like 5 people went for the ball, do you blame them, too?
   
   Was it wrong to do? Yes. Is it all his fault? No, it’s ignorant to think that.
   
   

   Oct 14, 10:21 PM

2. aaron

   damn right. Yeah, the fan gave up 8 runs! ROFL! It was a strike instead of an out. There is so much blame to go around…
   
   

   Oct 14, 10:32 PM

3. dave

   I enjoy blaming him.
   
   

   Oct 14, 10:48 PM

4. Jeff

   Gald to see the fans need a scapegoat. That’s just pathetic, especially counting how quickly you got that up there. No wonder why this city never wins a damn thing outside of the Bulls for a short period of time – and now they are down there with the Hawks and Cubs.
   
   Should he have gone for the ball? No but he did. You deal with it. Obviously, they didn’t – with Prior hanging pitches and Gonzo making the error. But nah, its easy to blame some anonymous kid for the loss. Nevermind the fact that the Cubs didn’t make the plays they needed to make when they needed to make them.
   
   I understand that this is all in jest – I sure hope it is at least – but its rather low.
   
   P.S. I must admit – “asshat” made me crackup.
   
   

   Oct 14, 11:31 PM

5. Maya

   god damn, that inning was a complete disaster. I have already postered that graphic on my door.
   
   

   Oct 14, 11:56 PM

6. dave

   Just look at the guy. He’s asking for it. Sorry, you’re not going to guilt me into taking it down.
   
   

   Oct 15, 12:17 AM

7. dave

   And of course it’s all in jest. I don’t really want to punch the kid or anything. Though I hate how everyone is calling him a kid. He looks to be around 20, which isn’t a kid. But whatever. He should have known better.
   
   I do think that was the turning point in the game though. Sure Gonzo shouldn’t have fumbled what could have been a double play. I don’t think too much blame should fall on Prior though. He did a damn good job up until the 8th. But, of course, it all quickly became moot. I feel badly for him and Farnsworth. Sigh.
   
   

   Oct 15, 01:16 AM

8. Bill Gates

   Steven Bartman who works at Hewitt and Associates in Lincolnshire.
   
   

   Oct 15, 10:07 AM

9. HWMac

   OMG! What a turd? I guess that the choice was between paying to get laid or going to a Cubs game. Wish he would have chose more wisely. We have game 7. They talk about this guy getting pummeled at work? The projection guy at the Cinema doesn’t get many visitors. I wish that I had the seats though, I would have at least caught the damn ball. OH WELL…..
   
   

   Oct 15, 10:50 AM

10. Janene

    this person has probably been a cubs fan for years..and all fans want to catch a game ball when they are at the game. he was caught up in the moment…and he should be left alone. you would’ve lunged for the ball as well. I’m sure he didn’t attend this game with a plan of action. he wanted to have a good time and people like you are ruining his life. He isn’t psychic..and he didn’t know that what happened would happen..you could also blame the runs on the cubs poor fielding and pitching. Lay off the guy..he’s only human.
    
    

    Oct 15, 11:50 AM

11. David

    I find it facinating that, because the cubs lost, this guys is getting all the blame. Was it a stupid thing to do? Yes. Would any of us have done it? You bet your ass! I’d have been knocking people over to get to that ball. Does he deserve all the grief? No. The shortstop screwed up…....is he getting this much grief? no. Bottom line: Even if they would have gotten that out, the screw up by the shortstop and subsequent hits cost the cubs the game. And what about the Marlins? They played great. If the Cubs lost their momentum after that play it’s their own fault.
    
    

    Oct 15, 12:26 PM

12. kevin

    you guys are inconsiderate assholes…any fan woulda done the same thing, it was NOT a guranteed catch, and it wasnt like it was a homerun that culd have been robbed, it was a foul ball. u cant blame jack shit on that guy. the next play however, is waht turned the game around….what shulda been a double play, ended up as nothing…..theres where the blame shuld lie, not on some guy who was at a game with his kids. i think its fucking ridiculous that so many cubs fans are trying to blame it on that. thats a crock of shit.
    
    

    Oct 15, 02:30 PM

13. Chris

    Ok please stop calling him a kid. He is a 26 year old consultant. I agree with most of you but, as you know the easiest thing to blame is the first thing that went wrong in a string of events. I just hope the Cubs win tonight so that this GUY will be forgotten.
    
    

    Oct 15, 02:51 PM

14. dave

    I’ll admit I overreacted to this, looking for an easy guy to put the blame on. Sure, the Cubs messed up. It was their game to lose, and they lost it.
    
    But even CNN is replaying over and over the fan blocking the ball. We’re not the only ones here putting part of the blame on him.
    
    And I wouldn’t have almost grabed Alou’s glove to try and get the ball.
    
    

    Oct 15, 02:52 PM

15. dave

    Yes, let’s all just hope the Cubs win tonight so that we can all move on, especially for the sake of this guy everyone is so quick to defend.
    
    

    Oct 15, 02:54 PM

16. Nemo

    It seems to me that if the Cubs are a good enough team, then they are good enough to go through an inning with 1 out and a couple men on base and not let the other team score. I saw that guy deflect the ball… but it happens all the time. It’s part of baseball. The fans are part of the game. And besides, 3 runs were scored (I think?) right after the incident, and no more outs were made before the game was tied. Even if the ball was cought by the left fielder, runs probably would have still scored. Don’t blame the poor fan for doing what any other fan would do.
    
    

    Oct 15, 04:33 PM

17. Parag

    I agree with all those others who say that it’s not really the guy’s fault that the Cubs characteristically blew their lead. I mean, are you seriously going to blame 8 runs on a knocked-away foul ball? If Mark Prior can’t keep his composure after that, let’s face it, he’s a loser. It’s just the Cubs fans’ way of rationalizing what they truly know, that their team will always blow golden opportunities (e.g. 3-1 lead) and forever remain “lovable losers.”
    
    Those guys really suck.
    
    Go WHITE SOX!
    
    

    Oct 16, 01:51 AM

18. Canuck

    Give the guy a break! There’s probably ten outstretched hands trying to catch that ball. You are just providing the team with a convenient excuse. It’s like “barbarians at the ball park”.
    
    

    Oct 16, 06:07 AM

19. Bob

    God, what a pathetic mess you death wishing idiots are. Get real lives, stop trying to find meaning in your own by living vicariously through the Cubs, and leave Bartman alone. All he did was something anyone would have done. You all make me sick. You are just finger pointing lemmings looking for a scapegoat to blame for your teams loss. How convenient it is. NO way the Cubs could lose without the help of sabotage. No Way! they are far too talented! Oh, wait, they havent been to the WS in how long? Let the guy alone. The fact that the whole city hates him for what he did is bad enough. He has to live with that. If you do anything to this guy you are truly pathetic and in need of some real meaning in your lives.
    
    

    Oct 16, 06:50 AM

20. Domer

    I went to college the Bartman and played baseball with him. Two minutes before “the play,” he was having the time of his life—now it is ruined for a long long time. He’s one of the nicest guys I knew. Let’s get off his back.
    
    

    Oct 16, 06:55 AM

21. Moonglow

    How stupid…More than that poor man went after the ball…and he is not to blame for their crappy playing. Nice try…But you are just looking for someone to blame.
    
    

    Oct 16, 07:26 AM

22. Jay

    EVERYONE is looking for someone, or something, to blame.
    
    For almost 50 years, Cub fans blamed a goat. Now they have a real person to call a goat. The ball was FOUL, clearly! How come I’m not hearing (or reading) that Alou was yelling, “DON’T TOUCH IT! I’VE GOT IT!!! DON’T TOUCH IT! I’VE GOT IT!!!” And how come none of the fans around the guy weren’t pushing him out of Alou’s way? Oh, they too were busy reaching for the ball! They must have been Marlin fans too!!!
    
    Get on with your lives! Damn it, there’s always next year.
    
    

    Oct 16, 07:34 AM

23. Cubs Fan

    All you other cubs fans that blame Bartman are idiots. Everyone of you would have done the same thing if you were in his seat. Hell, at least 5 other people were reaching for it. He just happend to be the one to touch it. Why don’t you blame the shortstop for making an error. If he makes the play they don’t score 8 runs either. Their are many things you can point to that just show how ignorant you all are
    
    

    Oct 16, 07:38 AM

24. paul

    Sorry pathetic cubies!!! Blaming a fan for choking! Dont worry! The Sox will bring it home!
    John, Ang, Alex dont cry!!!
    GO SOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    

    Oct 16, 08:28 AM

25. Trax

    Come on you guys. Was Bartman pitching? Was he the one who booted that sure thing double play ball to get out of that inning? Was he managing the team? NO!!!! Take a good long look at the scoreboard. You lost!! If the stinkin’ Cubs were that good they would have won 15-O. Or at least game 7. And what about game one? Remember Mark Guthrie? So Bartman messed up one out. It was still just one out he prevented. So get over it!!!
    
    

    Oct 16, 08:58 AM

26. Shannon

    
    Let me ask: How can an individual who WASN’T EVEN PLAYING in the game cost a team a win???
    
    First of all, it’s not a certainty that Alou would have caught and held on to the ball anyway.
    
    In addition…
    
    Did the fan walk Castillo and throw a wild pitch in the process, allowing Pierre to go to 3rd?
    
    Did the fan give up the single to Rodriguez?
    
    Did the fan boot the grounder at short hit by Cabrera?
    
    Did the fan give up the double to Lee?
    
    Did the fan give up the sac fly to Conine?
    
    Did the fan give up the double off the wall to Mordecai?
    
    DID THE FAN PLAY IN GAME #7????
    
    The truth is, Dusty Baker, bitten by criticism that he pulled Ortiz too soon in game #6 last year, goes to the opposite extreme this year and leaves his starters in a little too long.
    
    Let’s leave this poor guy alone and not contribute to his misery.
    
    
    
    

    Oct 16, 12:15 PM

27. Scott

    I state that Bartman could definitely be at fault here. You cannot take a singular act after the incident out of context, like what the media does often, and treat it like an isolated event. For example, perhaps Gonzo would’ve never had that error if the situation was different.
    
    All I know is that Prior, Alou, Gonzo, and maybe the rest of the Cubbies could’ve played differently if they weren’t non-plussed over the Bartman incident. Alou himself stated he was upset for many minutes after the incident. That affects your play. Prior undoubtedly was affected by the event because he wound up walking Castillo. Perhaps he started “aiming” his pitches because he still had to get 2 additional outs to end the inning. Maybe later the ball he pitches is a little faster and the grounder goes to 2nd instead of short and thus the error never happens. The Bartman incident created a NEW space-time continuum for that inning.
    
    As for the other fans who reached for the ball, IT DOES NOT MATTER. The only case which affected the result was Bartman. The events which unfolded resulted in only one person affecting the play, however lucky or unlucky it may have been depending on your point of view. Obviously the people of Miami felt he was in some way responsible owing to the many comments from them and offers for free vacations out there. Bartman was in the wrong place at the wrong time and he did the wrong thing. There are many criminals out there, but only the ones at the wrong place and wrong time go to jail. Have you ever tried to talk your way out of a speeding ticket by claiming others were also speeding? Try it and tell me how well it works with the cop…
    
    

    Oct 16, 01:00 PM

28. mark

    which site has the bartman lighting the hindenburg? thats CLASSIC!
    
    

    Oct 16, 07:51 PM

29. Peter young

    Cubs sucks balls!!
    
    

    Oct 17, 07:01 AM

30. yanks

    stop blaming this guy, the cubs lost the game! go yanks!
    
    

    Oct 17, 09:19 AM

31. dave

    For the record, the Yankees suck.
    
    

    Oct 18, 11:33 PM

32. Jorgey

    oh god, give the poor man abreak. it is tottaly not his fault. any one who enjoys blaming him has nothing better to do. u dont need to add onto his guilt, he already feels as if he let down his favorite team. if any one is doing the right thing and not cursing at his name or any dumb things,please pray for him
    
    
    think of actually being nice and forgive steven,, it aint that hard….
    
    

    Oct 19, 07:49 PM

33. Jorgey

    oh god, give the poor man abreak. it is tottaly not his fault. any one who enjoys blaming him has nothing better to do. u dont need to add onto his guilt, he already feels as if he let down his favorite team. if any one is doing the right thing and not cursing at his name or any dumb things,please pray for him
    
    
    think of actually being nice and forgive steven,, it aint that hard….
    
    

    Oct 19, 07:49 PM

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